and barack obama, and there's a question of should the president have people in his cabinet that he wants to have in his cabinet? there is this visceralness about it. it's very interesting that mccain has taken the lead. he has very strong views on this and it comes back to his former 2008 opponent. susan rice was a very strong critic of john mack contain and his foreign policy views. gwen: and he was close to chris stevens, the ambassador. >> i think there's a lot of personal feelings there. gwen: how much of it is about what the u.n. ambassador said on a talk show and how much of this is about what the intelligence department didn't do and what the state department didn't do? >> you're 100% right. i mean, i talked to republicans this week about this, and foreign policy expert republicans, who say why are we picking this fight? what we need to be asking is did the intelligence community decide to use the different language because they were playing politics, or did they not know? we've heard that general petraeus said that he immediately assumed that this was a terror attack from a